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Added 17.9.2011. Minor edits 13.3.14, 29.3.14. New info added 19-24.8.16.

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902, Private James WEBSTER - 17th Lancers

Birth & early life

Born at Erdington, near Birmingham, 15th of June 1824, and baptised on the 22nd of August 1824 at the church of St. Peter and St. Paul, near Birmingham.

The 1824 birth date raises the question of James Webster's true age at enlistment in 1847, which should have been 22 or 23 and not 19 (i.e. born c.1828) as he stated.

Information from descendant family members suggests that James Webster was one of a family of seven children born to Richard Webster (variously described as a Gardener, Labourer, and Farmer) and his wife, Sarah (also referred to as Sally [?]). [PB: However, so far as I know this has yet to be verified.]



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Marriage

St Martin, Birmingham, Warwickshire.

6th December 1813, Richard Webster married Sally Green. [GW]



1841 Census: a James Webster, 16, is a "Plater" [?] living in Erdington with his parents Richard, an Agricultural Labourer, and Sally Webster.

An older brother, William, is described as a "Metal [Polisher?]". Other children are Maria [?], 20, George, 15, Hannah, 12, Elizabeth, 11, and Thomas, 6.

This would appear to be our JW. Are these the Richard and Sally who married in 1813? Note that a "Hannah Webster" is mentioned below as the ancestor of EJB's informant Mr Strong.]

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1841 Census

Canal Side, Hamlets of Duddeston and Nechells, Aston, Birmingham.

James Webster, 16, Forge [implying a junior worker in a Forge?], born Warwickshire, was living in the home of John Noke [?], 24, Forgeman [presumably a more senior position], his wife Emma, 24, and their son William [?], 8 months.



Ashted Barracks, Duddeston, Birmingham, c.1830.

From George Yate, An Historical and Descriptive Sketch of Birmingham, 1830, p.204 (available online through Google). This seems to be an excellent source for the growth of Birmingham in the early nineteenth century.

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Enlistment

Enlisted at Coventry on the 20th of January 1847.

Age: 19.

Height: 5' 7".

Trade: Forge-man.

Features: Fresh complexion. Grey eyes. Lt. brown hair.

Service

Tried by a District Court-martial on the 7th of December 1854 for "being drunk on guard, and wounding a troop-horse." Given 50 lashes.

At Scutari from the 1st of January 1855 until being invalided to England on the 3rd of February.

Embarked for India from Cork aboard the S.S. Great Britain on the 8th of October 1857.

The musters for July-September of 1858 show him as being "On Field Service" during the whole of this period.

Served in the field at Rajghur and Mungrowlee with Captain William Gordon.

Sent to Sandhurst as a servant on the 24th of July 1866.



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Marriage [first]

6th of December 1868, at the Parish Church, Frimley, Surrey.

James Webster, 40, Bachelor, Soldier, [father] Richard Webster, Farmer.

Margaret Smith, 32, Widow, [mother] John Bollant, Architect.

Both were resident in Frimley.

[GW notes that "Bollant" could have been Bolland/Boland.]



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Baptism

Parish of Yorktown [a suburb of Camberley], Surrey

December 19th 1869, Elizabeth Annie, daughter of James and Margaret Webster, living in Yorktown, Corporal 17th Lancers.



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1871 Census

Cavalry Married Quarters no.1, Royal Military College, Sandhurst.

James Wabster [sic], Head, 42, Cavalry Soldier, born Warwick, Birmingham.

Margaret [Webster], Wife, 37, ditto Wife, Armagh, Ireland.

Margaret C. [Webster], Daughter, 9, Scholar, Not known.

Lillia A. [Webster], 1, Not known.

[PB: "Margaret C." is clearly not James's daughter. Presumably born "Smith", but she is now surnamed "Webster". "Lillia A." will later generally be called "Elizabeth Annie".]

Discharge & pension

Discharged at Longford, Ireland, on the 14th of July 1872: "Free, to pension, after 24 years service."

He was still employed at the Royal Military College, Sandhurst, at this time, and his intended place of residence was "At the College."

Served 24 years 134 days.

In Turkey and the Crimea: 2 years [sic]. India, 7 years 2 months.

Aged 45 years on discharge.

Conduct and character: "good". In possession of five Good Conduct badges.

Fourteen times entered in the Regimental Defaulter's book. Once tried by Court-martial.

Awarded a pension of 1/1d. per day.

Medals



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Entitled to the Crimean medal with clasps for Alma, Balaclava, Inkerman, and Sebastopol, and the Turkish medal.

Mutiny medal without clasp.

Although seemingly awarded the Long Service & Good Conduct medal, no record of it can be found at the PRO.

Commemorations

Member of the Balaclava Commemoration Society in 1879.

Signed the Loyal Address to the Queen in 1887.

Further detailed medal information archived.

Life after service

Burial

Parish of Yorktown [Camberley], Surrey

Margaret Webster [wife], Yorktown, June 25 1874, aged 40.



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Marriage registered

James Webster to Betsy Fudge, September Quarter 1875, Farnham.



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Marriage [second]

James Webster, 47, Widower, Groom, [son of] Richard Webster, Farmer, to Betsy Fudge, 40, Widow, [daughter of], Thomas Selway, Labourer, in the Parish Church, Frimley, 17th of July 1875.

1881 Census

4, Westcote's [sic?] Cottages, Obelisk Street, Frimley.

At the time of the Census Returns taken on the 3rd of April 1881, James Webster was shown as 52 years of age, a "Groom and Valet" [sp?], living with his wife Elizabeth, 46, Laundress, born at Butleigh Wooten [sp? now Wootton], Somerset, and Lilley, 10, a "Scholar" born at Camberley, Surrey.

There were six cottages in this row, three of the Heads of Households being shown as "College Servants".

His wife's initial is shown as "B" on his death certificate, which probably meant that she was known as "Betty" or "Betsy", popular diminutives for Elizabeth in past days [PB: the latter - see their headstone].



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1891 Census

Westcotts Cottages, Frimley, Camberley, 4 rooms occupied.

James Webster, 65, Army Pensioner, born Worcester [sic?], Erdington.

Betsy, 53, Laundress [a note adds "Wash"], born Somerset, Bulleigh Wootton.

[Note the comment in column 16: "Paralysed". At this time, he was only days away from death.

Also than an Elizabeth Webster, 21, a General Servant, born Surrey, Camberley, lived three houses away at Rose Cottage. Their daughter?]

Death & burial

James Webster died 14th of April 1891 at Camberley, Surrey.

Death registered

James Webster, aged 65 years, June Quarter 1891, Farnham.

He died at Westcots Cottage, Camberley, Frimley, Surrey, on 14th of April 1891, aged 65 years, from "Valve disease of the heart". He was described as a "Groom Domestic and Army Pensioner." His widow, B. Webster, was present at, and the informant of, his death.



James Webster: Death Certificate, April 1891.

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James Webster: Burial registration, St Michael, Camberley, 18 April 1891.

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Further information



James Webster in the uniform of a 17th Lancer, unknown date (photograph in EJBA donated by Mr. Strong, of Wolverhampton).

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In the "Memoirs" file, there is a copy of a photograph of JW in 17th Lancer uniform [see above] and also a copy of a letter he wrote to his parents from India in 1858. (Both these items were supplied by Mr. Strong, of Wolverhampton, who is his great-great-nephew.) [PB, August 2016: I have located the photograph, but not this letter.]

Further information



Gayle Wray: "Here is a photo of Elizabeth Annie (Webster) Hockley in her older years living in Brandon, Manitoba, Canada. It is only picture I have of her." [date?]

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[PB, August 2016: Gayle Wray forwarded two photographs of James and Betsy Webster's headstone sent to her by a correspondent from St Michael, Camberley. They are probably recent (i.e. 2016), so it would appear the stone is now further coated in algae.]

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References & acknowledgements

We are very grateful to Gayle Wray for adding a considerable amount of background information about James Webster's descendants through his daughter Elizabeth Annie, and for supplying a number of very interesting images. She has also generously provided the EJBA with a synopsis of her ongoing researches into her ancestor James Webster's family tree.

Census information for 1891 kindly provided by Chris Poole.

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